Year in Review: OBAMA’S TOP TEN LIES!

As President Obama wraps up his first year in office, we wanted to have some fun and review the many lies he has told. To come up with his top ten lies, we had to pour over nearly 200 entries!

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By Peter Andrew
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I gave myself a tough assignment: look through 200 lies and pick the top ten! Got it down to 28 pretty quickly. Then 23…that wasn’t much help, then 17. This was getting hard. 13. Then 11. I left out some very good ones, but these I think are the real doozies!

Obama\'s Top Ten Lies of 2009

Obama's Top Ten Lies of 2009

Each Day this week, we’ll feature a new Obama Top Ten List! Check in each day for the new list.

President Barack Obama’s Top Ten Lies of 2009.

  1. Climate Refugees. – Coming in at number ten is the bizarre September lie that Obama tossed out casually the idea that the world has a terrible problem with “Climate Refugees,” apparently a term he made up moments before his talk. The Dinocrat website caught this one with great humor: “That sinking feeling! From the President’s speech at the UN we learn that “rising sea levels threaten every coastline,” apparently causing islands to shrink and people to flee their homes as climate refugees:(Obama quote) “On shrinking islands, families are already being forced to flee their homes as climate refugees.” What islands is Obama talking about? Tuvalu, which has seen a negligible 3cm rise in sea level over the last quarter century? Or perhaps dreary Kivalina, which has indeed been shrinking, though not because of global warming. Apparently sea level increased by an average of 1.8mm a year over the last century. So if you were on an island like Tuvalu, which is 4.5m above sea level, you would be forced to “flee your home as a climate refugee” by the year 3000 or so. Better start running!” — ConservativeAmerican.org says this sounds like a song by the Jonas Brothers: “You see I’ve been to the year 3000. Not Much has changed but they live underwater!
  2. The Big Government Lie! – President Obama had the audacity to claim he doesn’t like big government! “Not because I believe in bigger government — I don’t.” The next day he proposed a budget with the biggest increase in the size of government ever! The boldness of this lie makes it one of my personal favorites.
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  4. ObamaCare Nightmare Won’t Add to Deficit! – As part of his amazing 21-lie salute on July 22nd, Obama repeated his pledge that his health care plan “won’t add to the deficit. And I mean it!” Later he even added his plan is “designed to lower it!” – So what of the Congressional Budget Office’s conclusion that the House bill does add to the deficit? Democrats and the Obama administration argue that the $245 billion included for doctors — the approximate 10-year cost of adjusting Medicare reimbursement rates so physicians don’t face big annual pay cuts — does not have to be counted in the overall cost of the health care bill. Their only-in-Washington reasoning is that they already decided to exempt it from congressional “pay-as-you-go” rules that require new programs to be paid for. In other words, it doesn’t have to be paid for because they decided it doesn’t have to be paid for!!!!! UPDATE 9/9/9 – Obama repeats the lie to congress and adds, “These are the facts. Nobody disputes them.” ANOTHER LIE!!! UPDATE 9/30/9: The National Review Online adds “This comment continues Obama’s already long tradition of trying to curtail debate by denying that anyone disagrees with him.”
  5. Never Said He Was in Favor of Single Payer – In August, President Obama told a bold lie at a carefully staged Town Hall meeting on Health Care: “I have not said I am in favor of a single payer system.” — In fact, he has said precisely that! Rush Limbaugh has audio of Obama saying he is in favor of a single payer system both in 2003 and again in 2007.
  6. Stimulus Has No Pork! – The Republican National Committee notes the following quote from the President: “And less than one month after taking office, we enacted the most sweeping recovery package in history, and we did so without any of the earmarks, pork-barrel projects that are usually accompanying these big — these big bills.” (Transcript: President Obama Delivers Remarks On Economic Recovery At Town Hall Meeting, The Washington Post, 7/29/09) REALITY: Pelosi’s Mouse Receives Stimulus Funds. “The tiny mouse that became a hotly disputed symbol of wasteful spending in the congressional debate over the $787 billion economic stimulus bill has returned to pester House Speaker Nancy Pelosi. The Obama administration quietly announced last week that as much as $16.1 million from the stimulus program is going to save the San Francisco Bay area habitat of, among other things, the endangered salt marsh harvest mouse.” (S.A. Miller, GOP Slams Stimulus Mouse Money, The Washington Times, 7/9/09)
  7. I Don’t Want to Run GM! President Obama in March: “Let me be clear. The United States government has no interest in running GM. We have no intention of running GM.” While out of the other side of his mouth he fires the GM CEO and has his own team creating a new business plan for GM. Sounds like running the company to us! He repeated the lie at the end of April. Fox News: “I don’t want to run auto companies…So the sooner we can get out of that business, the better off we’re going to be. We are in unique circumstances.” Again, a huge lie! So he takes over GM (even though the federal government only owned 35%) and fired the CEO, said his team would create the new GM business plan, then gave away Chrysler to his democrat pals at the UAW…and at the same time he has the audacity to claim he does not want to run the car makers?
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  9. I Had No Idea Lie # 1 – Michelle Malkin reports on what President Obama told ABCDEmocrat News today: “STEPHANOPOULOS: How about the funding for ACORN? OBAMA: You know, it’s — frankly, it’s not really something I’ve followed closely. I didn’t even know that ACORN was getting a whole lot of federal money…You know, what I know is, is that what I saw on that video was certainly inappropriate and deserves to be investigated. STEPHANOPOULOS: So you’re not committing to — to cut off the federal funding? OBAMA: George, this is not the biggest issue facing the country. It’s not something I’m paying a lot of attention to.” As Malkin notes, “It strains credulity — no, it snaps credulity in half — to believe Obama “didn’t even know” that ACORN was “getting a whole lot of federal money” given his extensive legal services on behalf of the group and training for its voter education arm, Project Vote. (See Links & Sources for the link to Malkin’s June 2008 column, “The ACORN Obama Knows”) MALKIN: Repeat after me: Obama is ACORN. ACORN is Obama. Barack Obama can no more disown ACORN than he could disown his own shadow.” UPDATE 9/27/9: More Proof Obama Lied about ACORN Scandal Obama’s statement, “I didn’t even know that ACORN was getting a whole lot of federal money,” is quite interesting considering he had millions put in his own Economic Stimulus Plan for ACORN! As we noted (See Other Scandals # 26), Fox News reported back in February that Republican John Boehner had revealed Obama was sneaking money into the Deficit Stimulus Plan for his democrat partisan pals at ACORN for so-called neighborhood “stabilization” (creating more democrat voters makes a neighborhood more “stable” I guess).
  10. I Don’t Blame Republicans. – The Associated Press and Yahoo! News: “OBAMA: “You haven’t seen me out there blaming the Republicans.” THE FACTS: Obama did so in his opening statement, saying, “I’ve heard that one Republican strategist told his party that even though they may want to compromise, it’s better politics to ‘go for the kill.’ Another Republican senator said that defeating health reform is about ‘breaking’ me.” UPDATE 9/9/9: Obama continues to blame republicans, lying to congress about a “partisan spectacle” going on in the Obamacare debate. He does not need a single republican vote to pass his plan. If there is a problem getting it passed, it is a democrat-only problem!!! UPDATE 9/13/9: Obama said in an interview broadcast Sunday on CBS’ “60 Minutes. “There are those in the Republican party who think the best thing to do is just to kill reform. That that will be good politics.” — ConservativeAmerican.org’s take: Obama continues to spread the lie (un-checked by most in the media) that republicans are to blame for anything. He knows they are powerless to stop any health reform Obama wants. Obama’s claims simply are false. AUGUST UPDATE: The Associated Press: “Obama told his audiences he is trying to reach across the aisle to craft a bipartisan plan, even as he blamed Republicans for delay. He peppered his DNC remarks with jokes and jabs at conservatives that had the partisan crowd breaking into applause and laughter. In response, a spokesman for the No. 2 Republican in the House said he had a question for Obama and his team. “We would love to know when, exactly — time, date, place — the president or his staff reached out to Republican leaders?” said Brad Dayspring, a spokesman for Rep. Eric Cantor, R-Va. Republican leaders in May sent Obama a letter outlining the GOP’s principles and asking to collaborate. “And the president’s response?” Dayspring said. “Meeting? Nah. Work together? No thanks. Further discussion? Nope. Instead, they went with, ‘Thanks for the letter.’” – The Associated Press: “Obama told his audiences he is trying to reach across the aisle…even as he blamed Republicans for delay.” Blamed Republicans?! Obama and his socialist-democrats can pass anything they want on any day of the week without a single republican vote. Republicans factually do not have the votes to delay anything Obama wants. It isn’t the republicans delaying ObamaCare, it is Democrats. The blame lies ONLY with them! Meanwhile ABCDEmocrat News quotes Service Employees International Union President Andy Stern on the idea of blaming republicans: “I think if health care reform dies, the Democrat majority in Congress dies with it,” said Andy Stern, the president of the Service Employees International Union. “It’s hard to imagine the Democrats convincing the public that Republicans are to blame for health care reform going down when the Democrats have such large majorities. … After last year’s promise of change, voters will start feeling buyer’s remorse.” Wow! That’s from Obama’s most frequent White House visitor, Andy Stern, an ACORN Board member!
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  12. I Had No Idea Lie # 2 – The Obama administration lied, saying the President was unaware of Tea Parties being held! Newsbusters reports on the line of bull the White House is sending out to try to deflate Tea Part Protests. From Good Morning America’s Dan Harris: “The White House says the President is unaware of the Tea Parties and will hold his own event today.”
  13. And the number one lie of the year from President Barack Obama is….(drumroll)…

  14. I’m No Chicken Little on the Economy! – This one is beyond outrageous and simply makes the President of the United States appear foolish! His Lie this time: “I’ve never bought into these Malthusian, woe, Chicken Little, the earth is falling. I tend to be pretty optimistic.” Absolutely unbelievable! This from the guy who said “economic catastrophe,” “might not ever recover,” “unable to reverse,” “create a negative spiral,” “Could become dramatically worse,” “Economic crisis could linger for years,” and on and on!! ConservativeAmerican.org was Leading the way Right on this story. And Obama can’t even get the quote right. It’s not the “earth” is falling, it’s the “sky” is falling!

All are taken from the Official Obama Administration Scandals List. Check back often for updates to the list!


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  5. PeterAndrew Says:

    From GrimCreeper at NewsVine comes this discussion:
    http://grimcreeper.newsvine.com/_news/2009/12/30/...

    amazedtexan

    and those are just the top ten!

    Reply#1 – Wed Dec 30, 2009 11:53 AM EST

    By the time he's done, I'm sure we'll be able to fill an almanac.

    #1.1 – Wed Dec 30, 2009 12:15 PM EST

    A nice example of smears and willful distortion of what are mostly mistatements if anything at all.

    The first one is a perfect example of people believing they are infalliable mind readers.

    The second one is not even a statement of Obama, and who knows how aware he was of tea parties on that particular day?

    The third one takes out context that it was about the prospects of health care reform back in July before the GOP engaged in unprecedented use of the filibuster and other obstruction.

    The fourth one assumes that Obama somehow followed Acorn closely, and assumes a particular meaning of a lot of money.

    The fifth is a statement of intention, which of course change as circumstances change, and the company is not being run by the federal government.

    The sixth is a statement of opinion on the extent and whether or not they should be pork.

    The seventh, frankly I dont know, has he unequivocally said that as President? Does anyone have the transcript and full quotation of what he actually said and what time period he was referring to? Was he just talking about the current bill?

    The eighth is a statement about the future and is in the context of long term deficits.

    The ninth is just more right wing mind reading.

    The tenth is by all appearances a matter of interpretation or just a mstatement about verb tense, since most experts agree families will be evacuating very soon and are preparting to do so.

    I am williing to bet that people apply a very different standard to whether something is a lie let alone a bad one when it is people they agree with.

    #1.2 – Wed Dec 30, 2009 12:45 PM EST

    A nice example of smears and willful distortion of what are mostly mistatements if anything at all.

    All but one are exact quotes. How can that be considered a willful distortion? The Internet is a dishonest politician's worst nightmare.

    #1.3 – Wed Dec 30, 2009 12:48 PM EST
    TiG.

    I would hate to be an apologist for any politician. Politicians lie, it is unfortunately part of the job.

    What is important right now is for the electorate to compare what Obama is doing as POTUS to their expectations that got him elected. If the electorate is displeased then it needs to take action in 2010 to increase the opposition and then find a suitable candidate (not a McCain) in 2012 to end this fiasco.

  6. PeterAndrew Says:

    #1.4 – Thu Dec 31, 2009 12:15 AM EST

    TheGrimCreeper

    find a suitable candidate (not a McCain) in 2012 to end this fiasco.

    Someone who is a true conservative.

    #1.5 – Thu Dec 31, 2009 12:21 AM EST
    Grim

    We need someone who has the guts to truly rein in the craziness. Cut the egregious spending, start a 'war' on lobbyists and other agents of corruption, lead this nation and challenge it to be the world leader in energy technology (terrestrial and extraterrestrial) and energy products themselves, focus on true reform in important areas such as health care.

    There are plenty of vital issues that need to be addressed. We simply cannot continue with the endless parade of professional politicians. Please, can we find someone who can be defended as a statesman/statesperson without causing people to ROTFL?

    #1.6 – Thu Dec 31, 2009 12:28 AM EST
    TheGrimCreeper

    Then we need to change the primaries. We need to put our best candidate in the election.

    #1.7 – Thu Dec 31, 2009 12:33 AM EST
    Grim

    You are so on the mark! This leads into the problem with the existence of political parties … maybe later.

    #1.8 – Thu Dec 31, 2009 12:36 AM EST
    Reply

    and who cares . Are we still fighting a war and losing young men and women because Obama said " I am certain that there are weapons of mass destruction in Iraq " ?

    No , case closed.

    8 years and BILLIONS of dollars later , we're still paying for that lie.

    Reply#2 – Wed Dec 30, 2009 12:13 PM EST
    TheGrimCreeper

    You folks just can't let Bush go, can you?

    #2.1 – Wed Dec 30, 2009 12:15 PM EST
    texamerican1

    A.-661334

    I CARE!!

    Liars are liars and should not be tolerated. People who condone liars and look the other way just because of party affiliation or Hollywood appeal or whatever,… are as detestable as the dirtyrottenrascal liars themselves.

    #2.2 – Wed Dec 30, 2009 12:23 PM EST
    Dog_Blue

    A-661334

    Let's see congress has had a strong democratic majority for 3 years now and the Bush has not been president for a year. How do you explain the war phenomenon in that light?

    You are in denial a hypocrit, a liar, or pretty dumb. Which is it? Maybe you are just an out of touch liberal.

    #2.3 – Wed Dec 30, 2009 12:27 PM EST
    TheGrimCreeper

    I call it Bush Derangement Syndrome: The uncontrollable need to blame the previous administration for your failures.

  7. PeterAndrew Says:

    #2.4 – Wed Dec 30, 2009 12:29 PM EST
    Pat N

    Ummm. A?

    Watch this and get back to me.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnjcofMFHsA
    #2.5 – Wed Dec 30, 2009 12:46 PM EST
    Catch22

    I call it Bush Derangement Syndrome: The uncontrollable need to blame the previous administration for your failures.

    Rightwingers used to use that for just about any criticism of the President especially if they accused Bush of lying with evidence nearly as slender as presented today. As ususual many use a ideologically correct labels that they believe only apply in one direction.

    By the standard applied then, many of the same rightwingers suffer from Obama derangement Syndrome.

    It shows the extreme hypocrisy of standard applied to those they disagree with to those they agre with.

    Can we agree that for a statement to be lie, it must be false at the time it is spoken and the speaker must know that it is false or there is every reasonable reason to believe it was knowingly false? Do you have a different standard?

  8. PeterAndrew Says:

    #2.6 – Wed Dec 30, 2009 12:49 PM EST
    TheGrimCreeper

    Nice to see you back, friend. Good video. And they say Republicans like to rewrite history!

    #2.7 – Wed Dec 30, 2009 12:51 PM EST
    Pat N

    Can we agree that for a statement to be lie, it must be false at the time it is spoken and the speaker must know that it is false or there is every reasonable reason to believe it was knowingly false?

    If we go with your line of reasoning, I'd like to hear whether or not his promise to go through bills…line by line…and veto earmarks was a lie, in your opinion. Afterall, he holds the veto pen. No one can make him accept an earmark.

    #2.8 – Wed Dec 30, 2009 12:53 PM EST
    Pat N

    good to see you too, Grim! I hope Santa was good to you!

    I suspect that video won't get many comments from the left.

    #2.9 – Wed Dec 30, 2009 12:54 PM EST
    TheGrimCreeper

    I suspect that video won't get many comments from the left.

    I think I hear the crickets chirping already. lol

  9. PeterAndrew Says:

    #2.10 – Wed Dec 30, 2009 12:56 PM EST
    danp1220

    A-661334

    "The community of nations may see more and more of the very kind of threat Iraq poses now: a rogue state with weapons of mass destruction, ready to use them or provide them to terrorists. If we fail to respond today, Saddam and all those who would follow in his footsteps will be emboldened tomorrow."– Bill Clinton 1998

    The other "liars" that "knew" Saddam had WDMs include John Kerry, Barbara Boxer, Madeline Albright, Tom Daschle, John Edwards, Al Gore, Sandy Berger, Wesley Clark, Ted Kennedy and many other democrats.

    #2.11 – Wed Dec 30, 2009 12:58 PM EST
    TheGrimCreeper

    The other "liars" that "knew" Saddam had WDMs include John Kerry, Barbara Boxer, Madeline Albright, Tom Daschle, John Edwards, Al Gore, Sandy Berger, Wesley Clark, Ted Kennedy and many other democrats

    Either Saddam had them and moved them or a whole lot of people on both sides were grossly misinformed.

  10. PeterAndrew Says:

    #2.12 – Wed Dec 30, 2009 1:00 PM EST
    greck

    I call it Bush Derangement Syndrome: The uncontrollable need to blame the previous administration for your failures.

    you do, huh?

    YOU?

    anyway you got the definition wrong:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bush_Derangement_Syn...

    #2.13 – Wed Dec 30, 2009 1:19 PM EST
    TheGrimCreeper

    I don't look at Wikpedia for my takes. I didn't claim to be the one who invented the term in the first place. You still get an E for effort, though.

  11. PeterAndrew Says:

    #2.12 – Wed Dec 30, 2009 1:00 PM EST
    greck

    I call it Bush Derangement Syndrome: The uncontrollable need to blame the previous administration for your failures.

    you do, huh?

    YOU?

    anyway you got the definition wrong:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bush_Derangement_Syn...

    #2.13 – Wed Dec 30, 2009 1:19 PM EST
    TheGrimCreeper

    I don't look at Wikpedia for my takes. I didn't claim to be the one who invented the term in the first place. You still get an E for effort, though.

  12. PeterAndrew Says:

    #2.14 – Wed Dec 30, 2009 1:27 PM EST
    greck

    I didn't claim to be the one who invented the term in the first place.

    yeah, you kinda did. You stated that you call it that, the implication being that you somehow stand out among others as someone who says it. Otherwise you should have stated "Charles Krauthamer calls it…" and then used the correct definition.

    It's kind of like If I saw a blue balloon and told everyone "I call that color 'blue'" (ok, actually, I'd have to say it about a balloon of another color since you got the second part wrong too…)

    BTW, Wiki had the link to the source, you could easily verify. You get an F for effort.

    #2.15 – Wed Dec 30, 2009 1:39 PM EST
    Catch22

    If we go with your line of reasoning, I'd like to hear whether or not his promise to go through bills…line by line…and veto earmarks was a lie, in your opinion. Afterall, he holds the veto pen. No one can make him accept an earmark.

    Could you quote that promise in context. I dont recall him promising to veto every bill that ever had an earmark anywhere.

    You may be confused, the President of the United States does not have a line item veto, it was held unconstitutional.

    As for Derangement Syndrome

    Krauthammer defined Bush Derangement Syndrome as "the acute onset of paranoia in otherwise normal people in reaction to the policies, the presidency — nay — the very existence of George W. Bush".[

    That does pretty well describe a lot of peoples reaction to Obama – "the acute onset of paranoia in otherwise normal people in reaction to the policies, the presidency — nay — the very existence of President Obama". The crazies have come out, alleging he isnt a citizen, he is a secret muslim, he is a Marxist, he is out to destroy the Constitution, etc etc – far more crazy and louder accusations than Bush critics in his first year.

  13. PeterAndrew Says:

    #2.16 – Wed Dec 30, 2009 1:40 PM EST
    TheGrimCreeper

    BTW, Wiki had the link to the source, you could easily verify. You get an F for effort.

    If I didn't get the definition right, then how can you accuse me of stealing it? Besides, Wikipedia is changeable by anyone; placing all your faith in that is foolish. Whether you use Krauthammer's definition or mine, you are guilty of Bush Derangement Syndrome, and I'm not discussing a moot point with you anymore. Address Obama's lies, or please move on.

    #2.17 – Wed Dec 30, 2009 3:48 PM EST
    greck

    Address Obama's lies, or please move on.

    sure,

    when are you going to establish that any of them are actually lies?

    Wikipedia is changeable by anyone. If you put all your faith in that, you are a fool

    yeah, that's why the link to the source is important.

    I think you're "guilty" of what I call Bush Derangement Syndrome, which is when someone can't figure out what's truth from lie, or how to substantiate a fact.

    or maybe it's when someone just makes up stuff; sure, why not?

  14. PeterAndrew Says:

    #2.18 – Wed Dec 30, 2009 3:56 PM EST
    Reply
    TheGrimCreeper

    Feel free to write in your favorite lie.

    Reply#3 – Wed Dec 30, 2009 12:17 PM EST
    Pat N

    Oh man. There's too many to list. I mean, there's the: "Unemployment will not go above 8%" lie. There's the: "The healthcare debates will be televised on C-SPAN" lie. It's going to be tough to come up with a favorite. I need to think about this for a minute.

    #3.1 – Wed Dec 30, 2009 12:50 PM EST
    TheGrimCreeper

    Let's not forget five days to review all legislation online. What's that I hear? It's PinnochiObama's nose growing.

    #3.2 – Wed Dec 30, 2009 12:54 PM EST
    Catch22

    If you dont want to be a hypocrit and actually show something other than spin and opinion, feel free to provide full quotes in context with links to sources and the basis for believing they were knowingly false when stated.

    Or you could just continue the breezy innuedno and slurs that typically led right wingers to shout Bush Deragement Syndrome when the last President was ever called a liar.

  15. PeterAndrew Says:

    #3.3 – Wed Dec 30, 2009 1:42 PM EST
    TheGrimCreeper

    If you dont want to be a hypocrite and actually show something other than spin and opinion, feel free to provide full quotes in context with links to sources and the basis for believing they were knowingly false when stated.

    For the love of God, catch 22, I'm not doing a doctoral dissertation here. You know as well as I do, what Obama said. I heard the words, in full context, when Mr. Obama uttered them. They were lies then; they are lies now. Take a look at this unedited video and try to tell me the seven lies he told are out of context.

    #3.4 – Wed Dec 30, 2009 4:00 PM EST
    Catch22

    You still fail to apply the same standard you apply to other Politicians.

    Do you assume that every campaign committment not fufilled is a lie? I dont. I doubt you do for politicians you prefer.

    Is it bad to make campaign comittments and not keep them? Absolutely. Is every one a lie? Hardly.

    When George W. Bush said that if was president the surplus would not go down, was that a lie?
    When he said he would never deploy Americas troops without an exit strategy, was that a lie?
    When he said his priority would be to ballance the deficit and limit earmarks, was that a lie?
    When he campaigned against bigger government spending, was that a lie?
    When he promised to be bipartisan and work with both parties, was that a lie?
    When he promised to decrease the political polarization, was that a lie?
    When he promised a plan to cut the deficit in half within 5 years, was that a lie?
    When he promised to regulate CO2 when elected, was that a lie?
    When he told the American people during his 2004 re-election campaing that the US never wiretapped any American even when hunting down terrorists, was that a lie (Yes that was unless he "forgot" that he had authorized warrantless wiretapping of American citizens for serveral years at that point)
    When he promised to always follow and uphjold the law and Constitution, was that a lie?

    If a liberal called Bush a liar for all of these things was the typical rightwinger non response on newsvine to accuse them of Bush Derangement Syndrome?

  16. PeterAndrew Says:

    #3.5 – Wed Dec 30, 2009 4:47 PM EST
    TheGrimCreeper

    I admit Bush lied, but that isn't the subject of this thread. Can we not get past George W. Bush long enough to focus on Barack Obama? Mr. Obama ran on a platform of transparency, ethics, hope, and change. In my opinion, this is the third term of George W. Bush. Where spending is concerned, Barack Obama puts Bush to shame.

    Meet the new boss, Same as the old boss

  17. PeterAndrew Says:

    #3.6 – Wed Dec 30, 2009 4:54 PM EST
    Catch22

    Uniform Standard for Lie, not politically or ideologically convenient one

    admit Bush lied, but that isn't the subject of this thread. Can we not get past George W. Bush long enough to focus on Barack Obama?

    That wasnt the question, the question was whether every single one of those things were clearly and objectively lies or would that be distoring the meaning of the term. I believe calling all of them lies distorts the meaning of the word lie, do you agree or disagree?

    This isnt about George W. Bush as much as it is about parisan hypocrisy and using language fairly and honestly. Ironic, that such a dishonest standard for lie is being used to accuse Obama of deception isnt it?

    My point is that you are not using an honest definition of lie, and I am illustrating with concrete examples that show it is dishonest.

    The subject is that those who hate Obama are calling him a liar with insufficient evidence. George W. Bush is just one example, we could use "Saint" Reagan as well or any one else but the information may not be readily available to document it. Do you call your mother a dirty liar EVERY time she says she will do something and does not?

    Do you think it is reasonable to call ALL of those statements lies and that it was reasonable at the time to repeatedly call the President a liar because of them. Did you call Bush a liar at the time? Do you think many of those who have voted up this story would have used a different standard.

    This is to illustrate a double and false standard on what constitutes lying.

    #3.7 – Wed Dec 30, 2009 5:07 PM EST
    TheGrimCreeper

    I'm not going to play semantics with you, catch22. I have sufficient evidence and it tells me Barack Obama is a liar. I hold my politicians to a higher standard than you. If you settle for less, that's exactly what you'll get. Hold their feet to the fire and they just might clean up their act a little.

    #3.8 – Wed Dec 30, 2009 6:15 PM EST
    Pat N

    Catch –

    Was Obama lying when he told us he wanted us to hold him accountable? Because that's exactly what we're doing.

    I know, I know…you need "proof" that he said this:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQH0Gxyxot8

  18. PeterAndrew Says:

    #3.9 – Wed Dec 30, 2009 7:22 PM EST
    TheGrimCreeper

    Pat,

    I unearthed an awesome quote today. It took me a while to find it (maybe because they didn't want me to).

    After signing the stimulus (complete with over 9,000 earmarks) into law, Obama flip-flopped:

    What you likely have heard about is that this bill does include earmarks. Now, let me be clear: Done right, earmarks have given legislators the opportunity to direct federal money to worthy projects that benefit people in their districts, and that's why I've opposed their outright elimination. And I also find it ironic that some of those who rail most loudly against this bill because of earmarks actually inserted earmarks of their own –- and will tout them in their own states and their own districts.

    #3.10 – Wed Dec 30, 2009 7:28 PM EST
    Pat N

    I love the 'let me be clear'. I'm surprised he didn't call it 'unprecidented' too.

    #3.11 – Wed Dec 30, 2009 7:57 PM EST
    TheGrimCreeper

    I love the 'let me be clear'. I'm surprised he didn't call it 'unprecidented' too.

    I'm sure it was sweeping and historic, too.

    #3.12 – Wed Dec 30, 2009 8:04 PM EST
    Pat N

    …and we 'averted a crisis'…

    #3.13 – Wed Dec 30, 2009 8:16 PM EST
    TheGrimCreeper

    ..and we 'averted a crisis'…

    I'm glad you're my friend and not an 'enemy combatant.' Can you hear the crickets chirping in here again? I guess the best disinfectant is the light of day.

  19. PeterAndrew Says:

    #3.14 – Wed Dec 30, 2009 8:21 PM EST
    Pat N

    I can. It's quiet. You'd think a 'man made disaster' hit. Not to be confused with a terrorist attack, of course. Or is it 'enemy combatant attack'?

    That's OK though. Because I'm becoming 'Baracktose Intolerant'. (an increasingly common medical condition in which the affected person becomes violently sick to the stomach when exposed to adulation and deification of Barack Obama.)

    #3.15 – Wed Dec 30, 2009 8:40 PM EST
    TheGrimCreeper

    That's OK though. Because I'm becoming 'Baracktose Intolerant'. (an increasingly common medical condition in which the affected person becomes violently sick to the stomach when exposed to adulation and deification of Barack Obama.)

    Be careful, dear; someone may find 'Baracktose Intolerant' on Wikipedia and accuse you of stealing it. Lord knows we can't think for ourselves; that's why I listen to 'right-wing' talk. I'm in withdrawals since all my favorite hosts are off until the fourth of January. Dr. Smith: "Oh, the pain!"

    #3.16 – Wed Dec 30, 2009 8:51 PM EST
    TheGrimCreeper

    BTW Did you catch the Pro Bowl selections? Favre and Rodgers on the same team. Favre probably wouldn't go, but one can always dream. I think it might look something like this. lol

    #3.17 – Wed Dec 30, 2009 8:55 PM EST
    Pat N

    Here's another one:

    Barackwurst: Full of pork and a bit on the slimy side.

    I gotta admit…that's an adaptation from a person who used to post here awhile back. He came up with a great marketing campaign for 'Barney Franks' (greasy, bloated and stuffed with pork)

  20. PeterAndrew Says:

    #3.18 – Wed Dec 30, 2009 9:00 PM EST
    Pat N

    BTW Did you catch the Pro Bowl selections? Favre and Rodgers on the same team. Favre probably wouldn't go, but one can always dream.

    You're kidding me!!! No! I didn't hear that! Favre's gotta go. It would be bad PR for him if he didn't.

    Great clip. Favre = Kirk.

    #3.19 – Wed Dec 30, 2009 9:04 PM EST
    TheGrimCreeper

    He came up with a great marketing campaign for 'Barney Franks' (greasy, bloated and stuffed with pork)

    Not to get hung up on appearances, but why doesn't that guy do something about his teeth? I'd recommend a sneeze guard for everyone in the front row who doesn't want a spittle shower.

    #3.20 – Wed Dec 30, 2009 9:07 PM EST
    Pat N

    Not to get hung up on appearances, but why doesn't that guy do something about his teeth?

    Ya know…I've wondered that myself. Maybe his…'domestic partner'…has a good answer?

    Just sayin'…

    #3.21 – Wed Dec 30, 2009 9:14 PM EST
    TheGrimCreeper

    Ya know…I've wondered that myself. Maybe his…'domestic partner'…has a good answer?

    Maybe that's why he was growing marijuana.

  21. PeterAndrew Says:

    #3.22 – Wed Dec 30, 2009 9:20 PM EST
    Catch22

    I'm not going to play semantics with you, catch22. I have sufficient evidence and it tells me Barack Obama is a liar. I hold my politicians to a higher standard than you.

    Words are cheap. I dont know you, but I do know that your articles source applies a huge hypocritical double standard.

    My question was whether applying your "higher standard" that you agree that ALL of the Statements by Bush were lies and that anyone who did not agree was applying too low a standard.

    Why do you keep dodging the question? Did you call Bush a liar when you had similar evidence about his statements? Are you sure? Is Bush a liar, How about Dick Cheney? how about Reagan, are there any politicians today that you respect with long records.

    Perhaps you were not among those who claimed bush derangement syndrome when Bush was accused of lies on less evidence.

    A higher standard is not necessarily an honest standard, a double standard is dishonest by your own standards.

    I have sufficient evidence and it tells me Barack Obama is a liar.

    A lot of critics imagine they are able to read his mind, even in the past when looking at a quote, and are some how able to see through him – its where personal bias and political bias is its strongest.

    I know American Thinker is a hypocrit, if you apply your higher standard to all politicains then how many are not liars? Is the GOP Minority leader a liar for example? How about you?

    #3.23 – Thu Dec 31, 2009 10:20 AM EST
    Catch22

    Was Obama lying when he told us he wanted us to hold him accountable? Because that's exactly what we're doing.

    Nope. Was Bush when he said the same thing? Did you apply the same standard to critics of Bush you apply today?

    How is that some people confuse "hold accountable" with "scream liar?"

    Perhaps you confuse "dont be a such a big hypocrit" with "adulation" and thats why you feel so sick?

  22. PeterAndrew Says:

    #3.24 – Thu Dec 31, 2009 10:26 AM EST
    amazedtexan

    Did you apply the same standard to critics of Bush you apply today?

    i did. and if i remember correctly that is what p bo campaigned on. so yes, i will hold him accountable also. don't say you're going to change if you are just going to do business as usual. i am so glad that i did not vote for him or buy into his baloney he spouted during the campaign. he must be an embarrassment to all who did.

    #3.25 – Thu Dec 31, 2009 10:33 AM EST
    Reply
    WILDWONDERFUL

    What about we will not insure illegals

    Reply#4 – Wed Dec 30, 2009 1:55 PM EST
    TheGrimCreeper

    What about we will not insure illegals

    I'm with Joe Wilson on this one.

    #4.1 – Wed Dec 30, 2009 4:01 PM EST
    Catch22

    Can you provide the actual quote in context, evidence that he did not mean it, AND any evidence that it even has actually even happened and that it was his plan to do so all along? (HINT: It has not – he never said he was going to outlaw illegal immigrants from paying full price for health insurance, nor is doing so a very smart policy for that matter.)

    I'm with Joe Wilson on this one. It was wrong then and is wrong now.

    #4.2 – Wed Dec 30, 2009 4:59 PM EST
    TheGrimCreeper

    Joe Wilson is right. The Republicans tried introducing amendments to block illegals from participating in the health care program, but they were voted down. Why vote against such an amendment if you don't intend to insure illegals? Obama knows it will reach the Supreme Court and they will rule in his favor.

    #4.3 – Wed Dec 30, 2009 6:19 PM EST
    Catch22

    The Republicans tried introducing amendments to block illegals from participating in the health care program

    Some passed, some didnt, some had more language and were more just political rhetoric than others. Obama didnt vote on any of them.

    Obama knows it will reach the Supreme Court and they will rule in his favor.

    Do you imagine that you have mind reading powers and that Obama is an all powerful pupett master of Congress?

    Do you really not understand the difference between using federal money to supplement coverage of illegal aliens with letting them pay full price for insurance?

    What issue involving illegal aliens do you imagne Obama "knows" will reach the Supreme Court and that he knows they will rule in his favor? What do you imagine this diabolical plot to be.

    Do you have any real evidence to back up your alleged theory of insuring illegal aliens? How much in federal dollars do you imagine will actually be involved? What other diabolical plots have you so cleverly built out of your imaginatiion?

  23. PeterAndrew Says:

    #4.4 – Thu Dec 31, 2009 10:32 AM EST
    Reply
    loogiequeen

    GrimCreeper: You never stop do you. That is one of the many reasons your Obama bashing holds no ground with intelligent people. Sorry you will have to put up with it for 7 more years!

    Reply#5 – Wed Dec 30, 2009 2:44 PM EST
    TheGrimCreeper

    Sorry you will have to put up with it for 7 more years!

    I say PinnochiObama is one and done.

    #5.1 – Wed Dec 30, 2009 4:02 PM EST
    amazedtexan

    hey grim, if you can't respect the man at least respect the office! that would be president pinnochio. get it right, geez. lol.

    #5.2 – Thu Dec 31, 2009 10:25 AM EST
    Catch22

    I say PinnochiObama is one and done.

    A lot of anger eh?

    I say your lopsided and juvenile rhetoric here and in other comments is more than sufficient evidence to completely disbelieve your assertion that you apply the same high standards towards all politicians uniformly.

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